Interrogating the notion of public space being for a singular "public". Exploring unofficial caretakers, loiterers, defacto 'owners' of public spaces and their conflicts with landowners and public agencies that seek to impose their own definitions of 'the public'. Using some small town park examples and cases from various cities. Extending metaphor to virtual spaces and "crowdsourcing", looking away from singular concept towards embracing multiplicity and conflict. the importance of designing for specific audiences and usergroups rather than nebulous ideals.